Dive Behind the Lines

What happens when one moment changes the course of your entire career?
In this episode of Dive Behind the Lines, Tony Cap sits down with Dominic Thielmann to talk about the officer-involved shooting that ultimately ended his career in law enforcement—and the journey that followed.
Dominic shares his story of the incident, the impact it had on his career and his life, and what it’s like when a career you dedicated yourself to is suddenly taken away. This conversation goes beyond the headlines to explore the human side of an officer-involved shooting and what happens after the incident is over.
We talk about the realities of law enforcement, career loss, trauma, resilience, identity, and finding a way forward when the uniform is no longer part of your life.
Because sometimes the hardest part isn't the call itself—it's what comes after.
This is a conversation about the moments that change us, the struggles that aren't always visible, and the strength it takes to rebuild when life takes you in a direction you never expected.
Whether you're a police officer, firefighter, paramedic, dispatcher, military member, or simply someone who wants to understand what first responders carry behind closed doors, Dominic's story is a powerful reminder that there is always more to the story than what we see on the surface.
Dive Behind the Lines — "Giving a voice to the stories behind the badge, the bunker gear, and the uniform."

What is it really like to be both a structural firefighter and a wildland firefighter?
In this episode of Dive Behind the Lines, Wes shares the realities of life on the front lines of the fire service. From battling fast-moving wildfires to responding to life-changing emergency calls, Wes opens up about the experiences that have shaped his career and the emotional impact that many first responders carry long after the call is over.
We discuss:
Wildland firefighting and large-scale wildfire operations
Structural firefighting and emergency response
The 50 MPH wildfire that pushed crews to their limits
The calls firefighters never forget
Mental health, trauma, and resilience in the fire service
Life behind the badge and beyond the bunker gear
This conversation offers an honest look at the sacrifices, challenges, and realities of serving as a firefighter while highlighting the importance of breaking the stigma surrounding first responder mental health.
Whether you're a firefighter, paramedic, law enforcement officer, military member, or simply want to better understand the people who protect our communities, this episode provides an inside look at the stories that rarely get told.
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In this powerful episode of Dive Behind the Lines, I sit down with retired Randy Sutton, a law enforcement veteran whose career spans more than three decades of service, sacrifice, and resilience.
After serving with both the Princeton Police Department and the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, Randy's life changed forever when he suffered a debilitating stroke while on duty. Rather than allowing that moment to define him, he transformed adversity into purpose by founding **The Wounded Blue>, the nation's leading nonprofit dedicated to helping injured and disabled law enforcement officers.
In our conversation, Randy opens up about the physical and emotional toll of the job, surviving a life-changing medical emergency, the challenges officers face after being injured, and why too many first responders suffer in silence. We also discuss the importance of mental health, finding purpose after tragedy, and how resilience isn't about never falling—it's about choosing to get back up.
Whether you're in law enforcement, the fire service, EMS, the military, or simply someone looking for a story of perseverance and hope, this episode is a powerful reminder that even in our darkest moments, there is a path forward.
Topics Covered:
Randy's journey into law enforcement
Serving 34 years in policing
The on-duty stroke that changed everything
The hidden struggles of injured officers
Mental health and overcoming trauma
Building The Wounded Blue
Finding purpose after adversity
Advice for today's first responders
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Dive Behind the Lines is dedicated to giving a voice to the stories behind the badge, the bunker gear, and the uniform.
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For more than twenty years, Kyle has answered the call—running toward emergencies, serving his community, and living the realities of the fire service. But some of the toughest battles he faced weren't on the fireground.
In this episode of Dive Behind the Lines, Kyle shares the lessons, challenges, and experiences that have shaped his career, while opening up about the mental health struggles that so many first responders face behind closed doors. From the cumulative weight of trauma and stress to the importance of seeking help and supporting one another, this conversation explores the often-unseen side of the job.
Along the way, we dive into stories from Kyle's career, lessons learned through two decades of service, leadership, family, and a few unexpected side quests that reveal the person behind the uniform.
This is an honest conversation about resilience, purpose, and what it means to keep moving forward when life presents challenges that no training manual can prepare you for.
Whether you're a firefighter, paramedic, law enforcement officer, healthcare worker, or someone navigating your own struggles, Kyle's story is a powerful reminder that strength isn't found in carrying everything alone—it's found in having the courage to keep showing up, ask for help when needed, and supporting those around you.
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In this episode of Dive Behind the Lines, we sit down with Zach Merkle — a former USAF servicemember, current Lieutenant/Paramedic, and Flight Medic — for one of the most raw and emotional conversations we’ve had on the show.
Zach takes us through his journey in the military, the fire service, and flight medicine, sharing what it’s like to operate in high-pressure environments where the expectation is always to perform, lead, and keep moving forward no matter the cost.
But this episode goes far beyond the job itself.
Zach opens up about being falsely accused in a military court martial case that changed the course of his life forever. He talks about the emotional toll, the damage it caused to his career and personal life, and what it took to keep going while everything around him felt uncertain.
Despite the outcome ultimately being in his favor, the experience left lasting impacts that still shape who he is today — as a leader, husband, father, and first responder.
This conversation is about resilience, identity, brotherhood, trauma, and the reality that some battles follow you long after the uniform comes off.
If you’ve ever wondered what people behind the badge and uniform truly carry, this episode pulls back the curtain.

Some experiences leave a mark you can’t shake. In this episode, we go beyond the badge to explore what it truly means to be shaped by the intensity, pressure, and brotherhood of the job. From split-second decisions to the challenges that push you to your limits, this conversation reveals the human side of those who show up when it matters most.
If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to be forged by fire—both literally and figuratively—this episode gives you an unfiltered, behind-the-scenes look at the courage, resilience, and lessons that define the life on the line.

In this episode, we sit down with Armando Bucio. Armando is a rare breed — someone who serves as both a police officer and a firefighter. He talks about how he first became interested in public service and what led him down this path.
We get into his early days in both careers, what those experiences were really like, and how they helped shape him into who he is today. Armando also talks about how he balances two demanding careers while still being there for his family.
We also dive into the mental side of the job — what it takes to stay strong, handle high-stress situations, and how he decompresses from the weight that comes with these roles. Throughout the conversation we laugh, joke, and keep things light at times, but we also hit on the seriousness of the work and the realities that come with it.
It’s a real conversation about service, pressure, family, and what it truly takes to live a life dedicated to helping others.

In this opening conversation, Tony shares his personal journey into the fire service and the military, what drew him to serve, what shaped him early on, and the moments that forced him to grow under pressure. This episode lays the foundation for what this podcast is about and why it matters.
Dive Behind the Lines was created to go beyond surface-level stories and headlines. This show is about the people behind the badge, the bunker coat, and the uniform. It’s about the critical incidents that change you, the leadership lessons learned the hard way, and the realities of life on and off duty.
In this episode, you’ll hear:• How Tony got started in the fire service• The transition from military service• Early challenges and lessons learned• The mindset required to operate under pressure• What listeners can expect from future interviews with police officers, firefighters, and veterans
This podcast is for first responders, military members, aspiring public servants, and anyone who wants to understand what service really demands — mentally, emotionally, and professionally.
This is just the beginning. Real stories. Real leadership. Real conversations.
Welcome to Dive Behind the Lines.